[BRLTTY] brltty 6.6 under windows not working?

Fri May 24 04:59:08 EDT 2024

Hi Jean Pierre,

Thanks for the info.
Let's see. Maybe someone can fix those issues.
Or find the direct problem.
Maybe it is a problem with both programs.

Greetings,
Simon
Von: BRLTTY <brltty-bounces at brltty.app> Im Auftrag von jpraphat at free.fr
Gesendet: Freitag, 24. Mai 2024 09:22
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Betreff: Re: [BRLTTY] brltty 6.6 under windows not working?

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Hello everyone,
I have carried out numerous tests.
Nvda 2024 displays Brltty well but it does not work.
At home I was forced to revert to the version of Brltty 4.4.1 and Nvda 2023.3.4
You must uninstall Brltty and restart the PC.
My tests were carried out with two PCs running Windows 10 and one running Windows 11
I have two other friends who have done the same procedure as me and it works.
By installing Nvda 2023.3.4 and Brltty 4.4.1
I think there is a bug in Nvda 2024
Note:
When we install the narrator and we want to have a braille display, it is Brltty which is
proposed, and narrator will load a Brltty himself.
This seems effective to me!!
Brltty 6.5.0 never worked!!!!
All these tests were carried out with Alva Abt 380 braille displays with a USB to serial
converter.
Good day to everyone and especially to Yanick
Jean Pierre

Bonjour à tous,

J’ai effectué de nombreux essais.
Nvda 2024 affiche bien Brltty mais cela ne fonctionne pas.
Chez moi j’ai été obligé de revenir à la version de Brltty 4.4.1 et Nvda 2023.3.4
Il faut bien désinstaller Brltty, et redémarrer le PC.
Mes tests ont été effectués avec deux Pc sous Windows 10 et un en Windows 11
J’ai deux autres amis qui ont effectués la même procédure que moi et cela fonctionne. En installant Nvda 2023.3.4 et Brltty 4.4.1
Je pense qu’il y a un beug dans Nvda 2024
Remarque :
Lorsque l’on instal le narrator et que nous désirons avoir une plage braille, c’est Brltty qui est proposé, et narrator va charger lui-même un Brltty.
Ceci me paraît efficace !!
Brltty 6.5.0 n’a jamais fonctionné !!!!

Tous ces  essais ont été réalisé avec des plages braille Alva Abt 380 avec un convertisseur Usb vers série.

Bonne journée à tous et surtout à Yanick

Jean-Pierre

De : BRLTTY <brltty-bounces at brltty.app> De la part de Eigeldinger Simon
Envoyé : mercredi 22 mai 2024 16:50
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Objet : Re: [BRLTTY] brltty 6.6 under windows not working?

Hi Paul,

Here with BRLTTY 6.6 installed and NVDA 2024.1 it displays brltty.
But just when the Service is running.
Hm. Interesting.

Greetings,
Simon
Von: BRLTTY <brltty-bounces at brltty.app<mailto:brltty-bounces at brltty.app>> Im Auftrag von Paul Scott
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2024 16:44
An: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. <brltty at brltty.app<mailto:brltty at brltty.app>>
Betreff: Re: [BRLTTY] brltty 6.6 under windows not working?

I pretty sure that nvda 2022 and older version of nvda has brltty in the list of braille display under the setting and it does work with brlapi. However the version nvda 2024.1 does not have brltty in the braille display setting even though brlapi is running. Perhaps I am doing something wrong. Thanks for your suggestion.

On Wed, May 22, 2024, 1:18 AM Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger at hohenems.at<mailto:simon.eigeldinger at hohenems.at>> wrote:
Hi Paul,

When you have the windows service running, nvda can detect brltty.
I guess with the portable version you can't do that or you need to run it without the -n option.

Greetings,
Simon
Von: BRLTTY <brltty-bounces at brltty.app<mailto:brltty-bounces at brltty.app>> Im Auftrag von Paul Scott
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2024 05:26
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Betreff: Re: [BRLTTY] brltty 6.6 under windows not working?

Hi,

I am using a portable version of brltty and a HIMS note taker over bluetooth serial. Since this is only braille display I have, I too can't get the USB to work. Perhaps try connection over bluetooth? Lastly, brltty is not listed in the options in the latest nvda. I hope this helps.

On Tue, May 21, 2024, 7:07 AM Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger at hohenems.at<mailto:simon.eigeldinger at hohenems.at>> wrote:
Hello Paul,

Downgrading NVDA to such a very old version isn't an option.
The person who would need this workaround works on Windows 11 so running the latest NVDA would be a requirement.
But it seems that also brltty seems not to be able to find the braille device in the first place.
Which braille display are you using?
I tried with the Handy Tech Active Star 40.
As far as i know this is a USB HID device.
Though i also have older braille devices which i might try which have a serial to USB converter.

Greetings,
Simon
Von: BRLTTY <brltty-bounces at brltty.app<mailto:brltty-bounces at brltty.app>> Im Auftrag von Paul Scott
Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Mai 2024 12:45
An: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. <brltty at brltty.app<mailto:brltty at brltty.app>>
Betreff: Re: [BRLTTY] brltty 6.6 under windows not working?

I think that brltty does work on window but not with nvda and jaws. As far as I know brltty 6.4 is used  in narrators. Lastly I use brltty 6.6 frequently with window CMD console. My suggestion is use older nvda version such as 2022. Hope it helps.

On Tue, May 21, 2024, 1:54 AM Mario Lang <mlang at blind.guru<mailto:mlang at blind.guru>> wrote:
Hi.

None of our active devs really use Windows on a regular basis.
I wonder if it was a good idea to port to that platform, since that
raises expectations on the user side.

Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger at vol.at<mailto:simon.eigeldinger at vol.at>> writes:

> Hi,
>
> Have redone that with admin privileges.
> Forgot about that. :-)
> Seems we have the same errors.
> attached is the file.
> Greetings,
> Simon
>
>
> Am 20.05.2024 um 01:18 schrieb Jason J.G. White:
>> On 19/5/24 16:02, Simon Eigeldinger wrote:
>>> I tried brltty versions 6.3, 6.4, 6.5 and 6.6.
>>>
>>> Attached is the brltty.log of brltty 6.6.
>> There appear to be Windows USB errors. Did you run it with
>> administrative privilege? I suspect this isn't the issue, but we
>> might as well check.
>> I'm not running Windows, so that's the limit of my ability to help.
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