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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=FR link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>This following text has been automatically translated<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hello everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I have carried out numerous tests.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Nvda 2024 displays Brltty well but it does not work.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>At home I was forced to revert to the version of Brltty 4.4.1 and Nvda 2023.3.4<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>You must uninstall Brltty and restart the PC.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>My tests were carried out with two PCs running Windows 10 and one running Windows 11<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I have two other friends who have done the same procedure as me and it works.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>By installing Nvda 2023.3.4 and Brltty 4.4.1<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I think there is a bug in Nvda 2024<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Note:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>When we install the narrator and we want to have a braille display, it is Brltty which is<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>proposed, and narrator will load a Brltty himself.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>This seems effective to me!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Brltty 6.5.0 never worked!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>All these tests were carried out with Alva Abt 380 braille displays with a USB to serial<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>converter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Good day to everyone and especially to Yanick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jean Pierre<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Bonjour à tous,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>J’ai effectué de nombreux essais.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Nvda 2024 affiche bien Brltty mais cela ne fonctionne pas.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Chez moi j’ai été obligé de revenir à la version de Brltty 4.4.1 et Nvda 2023.3.4<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Il faut bien désinstaller Brltty, et redémarrer le PC.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Mes tests ont été effectués avec deux Pc sous Windows 10 et un en Windows 11<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>J’ai deux autres amis qui ont effectués la même procédure que moi et cela fonctionne. En installant Nvda 2023.3.4 et Brltty 4.4.1<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Je pense qu’il y a un beug dans Nvda 2024<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Remarque :<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Lorsque l’on instal le narrator et que nous désirons avoir une plage braille, c’est Brltty qui est proposé, et narrator va charger lui-même un Brltty.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Ceci me paraît efficace !!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Brltty 6.5.0 n’a jamais fonctionné !!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Tous ces essais ont été réalisé avec des plages braille Alva Abt 380 avec un convertisseur Usb vers série.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Bonne journée à tous et surtout à Yanick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jean-Pierre<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b>De :</b> BRLTTY <brltty-bounces@brltty.app> <b>De la part de</b> Eigeldinger Simon<br><b>Envoyé :</b> mercredi 22 mai 2024 16:50<br><b>À :</b> Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. <brltty@brltty.app><br><b>Objet :</b> Re: [BRLTTY] brltty 6.6 under windows not working?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE>Hi Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE>Here with BRLTTY 6.6 installed and NVDA 2024.1 it displays brltty.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE>But just when the Service is running.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE>Hm. Interesting.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE>Greetings,<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE> BRLTTY <<a href="mailto:brltty-bounces@brltty.app">brltty-bounces@brltty.app</a>> <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Paul Scott<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2024 16:44<br><b>An:</b> Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. <<a href="mailto:brltty@brltty.app">brltty@brltty.app</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [BRLTTY] brltty 6.6 under windows not working?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE-AT><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE-AT>I pretty sure that nvda 2022 and older version of nvda has brltty in the list of braille display under the setting and it does work with brlapi. However the version nvda 2024.1 does not have brltty in the braille display setting even though brlapi is running. Perhaps I am doing something wrong. Thanks for your suggestion. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE-AT><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE-AT>On Wed, May 22, 2024, 1:18 AM Eigeldinger Simon <<a href="mailto:simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at">simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE>Hi Paul,</span></b><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE> </span></b><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE>When you have the windows service running, nvda can detect brltty.</span></b><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE>I guess with the portable version you can't do that or you need to run it without the -n option.</span></b><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE> </span></b><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE>Greetings,</span></b><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE>Simon</span></b><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE> BRLTTY <<a href="mailto:brltty-bounces@brltty.app" target="_blank">brltty-bounces@brltty.app</a>> <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Paul Scott<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 22. Mai 2024 05:26<br><b>An:</b> Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. <<a href="mailto:brltty@brltty.app" target="_blank">brltty@brltty.app</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [BRLTTY] brltty 6.6 under windows not working?</span><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=DE-AT> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=DE-AT>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=DE-AT> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=DE-AT>I am using a portable version of brltty and a HIMS note taker over bluetooth serial. Since this is only braille display I have, I too can't get the USB to work. Perhaps try connection over bluetooth? Lastly, brltty is not listed in the options in the latest nvda. I hope this helps.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=DE-AT> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=DE-AT>On Tue, May 21, 2024, 7:07 AM Eigeldinger Simon <<a href="mailto:simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at" target="_blank">simon.eigeldinger@hohenems.at</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE>Hello Paul,</span></b><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE> </span></b><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE>Downgrading NVDA to such a very old version isn't an option.</span></b><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE>The person who would need this workaround works on Windows 11 so running the latest NVDA would be a requirement.</span></b><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE>But it seems that also brltty seems not to be able to find the braille device in the first place.</span></b><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE>Which braille display are you using?</span></b><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE>I tried with the Handy Tech Active Star 40.</span></b><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE>As far as i know this is a USB HID device.</span></b><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE>Though i also have older braille devices which i might try which have a serial to USB converter.</span></b><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE> </span></b><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE>Greetings,</span></b><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE>Simon</span></b><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE> BRLTTY <<a href="mailto:brltty-bounces@brltty.app" target="_blank">brltty-bounces@brltty.app</a>> <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Paul Scott<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 21. Mai 2024 12:45<br><b>An:</b> Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. <<a href="mailto:brltty@brltty.app" target="_blank">brltty@brltty.app</a>><br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [BRLTTY] brltty 6.6 under windows not working?</span><span lang=DE-AT><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=DE-AT> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=DE-AT>I think that brltty does work on window but not with nvda and jaws. As far as I know brltty 6.4 is used in narrators. Lastly I use brltty 6.6 frequently with window CMD console. My suggestion is use older nvda version such as 2022. Hope it helps.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=DE-AT> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=DE-AT>On Tue, May 21, 2024, 1:54 AM Mario Lang <<a href="mailto:mlang@blind.guru">mlang@blind.guru</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=DE-AT>Hi.<br><br>None of our active devs really use Windows on a regular basis.<br>I wonder if it was a good idea to port to that platform, since that<br>raises expectations on the user side.<br><br><br>Simon Eigeldinger <<a href="mailto:simon.eigeldinger@vol.at" target="_blank">simon.eigeldinger@vol.at</a>> writes:<br><br>> Hi,<br>><br>> Have redone that with admin privileges.<br>> Forgot about that. :-)<br>> Seems we have the same errors.<br>> attached is the file.<br>> Greetings,<br>> Simon<br>><br>><br>> Am 20.05.2024 um 01:18 schrieb Jason J.G. White:<br>>> On 19/5/24 16:02, Simon Eigeldinger wrote:<br>>>> I tried brltty versions 6.3, 6.4, 6.5 and 6.6.<br>>>><br>>>> Attached is the brltty.log of brltty 6.6.<br>>> There appear to be Windows USB errors. Did you run it with<br>>> administrative privilege? I suspect this isn't the issue, but we<br>>> might as well check.<br>>> I'm not running Windows, so that's the limit of my ability to help.<br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list.<br>>> To post a message, send an e-mail to: <a href="mailto:BRLTTY@brltty.app" target="_blank">BRLTTY@brltty.app</a><br>>> For general information, go to: <a href="http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty" target="_blank">http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty</a><br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list.<br>> To post a message, send an e-mail to: <a href="mailto:BRLTTY@brltty.app" target="_blank">BRLTTY@brltty.app</a><br>> For general information, go to: <a href="http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty" target="_blank">http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty</a><br>><br><br>-- <br>CYa,<br> </span><span lang=DE-AT style='font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif'>⡍⠁⠗⠊⠕</span><span lang=DE-AT><br>_______________________________________________<br>This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list.<br>To post a message, send an e-mail to: <a href="mailto:BRLTTY@brltty.app" target="_blank">BRLTTY@brltty.app</a><br>For general information, go to: <a href="http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty" target="_blank">http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=DE-AT>_______________________________________________<br>This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list.<br>To post a message, send an e-mail to: <a href="mailto:BRLTTY@brltty.app" target="_blank">BRLTTY@brltty.app</a><br>For general information, go to: <a href="http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty" target="_blank">http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE-AT>_______________________________________________<br>This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list.<br>To post a message, send an e-mail to: <a href="mailto:BRLTTY@brltty.app" target="_blank">BRLTTY@brltty.app</a><br>For general information, go to: <a href="http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty" target="_blank">http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>