[BRLTTY] braille doesn't work at all under Ubuntu 8.04.1

Labrador labrad0r at edpnet.be
Thu Sep 4 08:13:25 EDT 2008


On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 01:39:18PM +0200, Hermann wrote:
> What happens when you plug your braille display to the laptop and start
> Ubuntu without using your SSH-connection of the other PC? Is your
> display recognized by the system? 

It wasn't running, but it was listed when typing lsusb, so it is recognized
but wasn't running brltty due to a wrong brltty.conf Ubuntu itself wrote
during installation. But read further here...

>Can you start brltty from a text
> terminal without that U/X etc. question?

As said in aprevious mail:

- the problem is now resolved due to the usb: lowercase addition at the
braille-device line in /etc/brltty.conf

- the U/S/B/X screen at boot time still continues to come up, *even now that
it is correctly configurated* : I now still need to press X (exit) so it 
continues to start up. But thats very making me crazy: I must probably
remove something somewhere but ignore what...?

> I guess your problems come from your way to log into your laptop, or do I
> missunderstand something?
> 
> >> [...]
> >> > Now I only have to resolve 2 problems:
> >> > puting another translation table in my config, no one line about it...
> >> > and the persistent question at boot time...
> >> >
> >
> >> Which table? 
> >
> > text-table de  was the one I needed.
> >
> >>Provided it's French, then put in your brltty.conf:
> >> text-table fr_FR
> >
> > Well now about this I'd like to see it implemented in the installer so that
> > it follow the locale of the first installation (account), so that you can
> > create a stable system around this problem; examples:
> > - at the North (flemish part) of Belgium where I live, we use the de table,
> > while the Brussels people and the South (FR-language part) uses fr_FR;
> > and ..... a locale is always defined as mm_NN, so the idea should be :
> > if locale = nl_BE then default table for brailel should be de, if locale =
> > fr_BE or fr_FR then default braille table should be fr_FR.
> >

> Which installer do you mean? I guess the one of brltty? I think that's a
> bit difficault, since a lot of locales exist with two or more possible
> languages (for example think of India); how to implement such a script?
> If no table is specified, brltty starts always with the US table.
> BTW.: I found that there is no Dutch table; such a table would perhaps
> better fit for the Netherlands and the Flemish part of belgium.

That's exactly what I'm looking for; let me explain: there are braille
tables usually used in some parts of a country; if there are enough locales
basically under each distro, making a way to match with it using the best
brltty text-table is coherent IMHO: when a sighted person installs Linux in
a certain language, both their keyboard + Gnome correspond to the lang they
choosed during the system installation (installer); there are lesser braille
tables than available languages and locales, but there are uses such I
explained in my previous mail:
doing nothing to it is not logical IMHO while following the locale method 
is a much better solution, EVEN WHEN YOU CAN'T RESOLVE 100% of the cases.

Of course, realizing this implies to create a list where 
if locale = mm_NN then do

And if that couldn't be realized inside the distro installer, then that can
be resolved by a separate brltty-i18n package who may resolve the problem 
automatically at the first reboot of the system.

Aldo.



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