[BRLTTY] 6.5 within a couple of weeks.

Christian Schoepplein chris at schoeppi.net
Mon May 9 04:39:12 EDT 2022


Hi Dave,

On Wed, May 04, 2022 at 04:21:47AM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote:
>[quoted lines by Christian Schoepplein on 2022/05/04 at 09:47 +0200]
>
>>But wouldn't it be best practice to allways speech the full 
>>line, no matter if they are really new or only updated? Speaking only a part 
>>of a line is IMHO a real bad behaviour when only working with speech because 
>>the user will not get the whole information of the content displayed on the 
>>screen.
>
>Did you read my example at the bottom? I'll repeat it as well as give a second.
>
>
>When you're typing at a prompt, do you really want the whole line 
>(including even the prompt part) respoken each time you type a character? 
>Now, of course, in this case you do know the context - but brltty doesn't. 
>In this case, I'm sure you're quite happy that brltty is only saying each new characte4r as it's being typed.

I understand your point of view and agree, speaking the whole line makes 
really no sense, especialy when the content is also displayed on a braille 
device.

But lets take again the example when you type in a shell "ssl", press enter, 
type "ssh" and then go up one line. In this case brltty only speaks "l". 
This isn't the right behaviour IMHO because not the "l" is focused and its 
not the character where the cursor is positioned. The cursor is located 
behind the "l" so IMHO speaking "blank", or whatever is spoken for a empty 
sign, should be spoken.

These things are all not a big problem when you are working with a braille 
display and speech is enabled in addition. But when working with speech only 
and when you have no braille display there are some situations where it is 
not always clear where the focus is and whats the content of the screen if 
only a part or the changing part of a line is spoken.

So maybe the basic question is if brltty's speech support is only an 
addition to braille or if brltty can be used also without a braille display 
with speech only. IMHO currently working with speech only is at least hard 
and not allways easy, but maybe working with brltty and speech only is 
not intended which is also okay, if everyone is aware.

Cheers,

  Schoepp



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