[BRLTTY] forgot attachment Was: OOOPS! something really wrong with the driver or my Optelec

Aldo labrad0r at edpnet.be
Thu Nov 12 12:57:35 EST 2009


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> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 02:12:52PM -0500, Dave Mielke wrote:
> > [quoted lines by Aldo on 2009/11/11 at 19:08 +0100]
> > 
> > >That had worked but after having tried the up down cursor keys, i was on top
> > >of the screen and suddenly the BC640 stopped with moving, only the text line
> > >on top of that screen was showed but no any movement in the keys.
> > 
> > Is this always the way to cause the hang? If you can give me a way that will 
> > always cause the problem then it may be easier for me to figure out what the 
> > cause is.
> 
> I may do something wrong with pressing keys without knowing what they are
> used for, but a few minutes ago it had hanged again,
> showing lots of *********************** on screen, and something moving
> rapidly.
> After unplugging then replugging and resetting On, it didn't produced
> braille again, so I only rebooted.
> For now it works again.
> 
> I'm only playing now *carefully* with the five front keys:
>   left  left-up  cursor  right-down  right
> 
> I hope I didn't caused the hang myself yesterday ? Anyway I don't know how
> except if some keys are supposed causing unexpected actions?
> 
> > >Power of, power on, ALVA BC640 ready etc message, but nothing more. 
> > 
> > I don't think that powering it off and on fully resets the USB connection 
> > because the BC640 contains a couple of internal storage devices. 
> > To fully reset 
> > it you need to disconnect and reconnect the USB cable.
> 
> For now I tested it, removing cable and setting Off, recabling then setting
> On, and it works now: the name Alva BC640 does appear, then USB connected, then
> the "blip" of brltty and the message BrlTty 4.1. 
> 
> But no  asteroid:~#  prompt as long as I don't press <ENTER>...
> 
> > >No, I don't know at all how to enter in its menu.
> > 
> > You need to press three of the smartpad keys at the same time to enter the 
> > BC640's menu. They are the left and right inner long keys and the bottom key at 
> > the center. To leave the menu, press the leftmost long key on the smartpad.
> 
> OK that works. 
> 
> > >AFter the problem occured again this morning, I plugged out and again in the
> > >usb cable but it doesn't restarted brltty or so, no beeps, no braille
> > >prompt:~# or so.
> > 
> > What if you do both, i.e. replug the cable and restart brltty?
> 
> YES now it works, except no prompt as long as I don't pressed <ENTER>.
> 
> So OK it may have been something around the cable (I hope one usb
> socket on my laptop isn't broken ? ...)  
>  
> > >But I discovered that halting the laptop suddenly showed BRLTTY terminated
> > >as message and that's very strange. 
> > 
> > I wonder if that means that something is causing brltty to actually shut down 
> > rather than hang.
> 
> I don't know.
> 
> > >> of the two displays. Then, ionstead of specifying -dusb:, add the serial 
> > >> number, e.g. -dusb:12345. 
> > >
> > >Hm, in this example you are talking about a serial 12345 while the bluetooth
> > >param in brltty.conf specifies xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx  so its not clear to me. 
> > 
> > For Bluetooth, the data part of the device name is the Bluetooth Device 
> >Address 
> 
> OK, but I don't know how I have to find it somewhere...
> 
> > whereas for USB it's the device's serial number.
> > 
> > >And for USB (it's currently USB connected, not bt) I don't know how I should
> > >know the serial of my Satellite: I have always used braille-device usb:
> > 
> > I don't remember if the Satellite's menu tells you the serial number or not. 
> > The BC640's menu, however, does show you its serial number.
> > 
> > I'm sure you can find the Satellite's serial nmber via lsusb, although you may 
> > need to use its -v (verbose) option.
> > 
> > Do (without the qutoes) "lsusb -v". Check the lines which start with the word 
> > "iProduct" until you find the one for your Satellte. The very next line should 
> > start with the word "iSerial", and should contain the serial number.
> 
> Well, currently only the BC640 is connected. I am confused enough for now
> so I do concentrate me on the Optelec. But its very nice to know that some
> may use 2 displays at the same time! 
> 
> I attached the lsusb -v output for you: 
> I found something like a serial for my BC640; can you confirm it's the right
> one? 	00A0962CDB29
> ?
> If it works with the -d usb:mmmmm parameter on the fly, I suppose it will
> in brltty.conf too?
>    braille-device usb:00A0962CDB29
> ?
>  
> For having that same dispaly in usb + bt, can you give me a template of
> device line for the brltty.conf ?
> 
> > >> you can run more than one brltty at the same time without a problem.
> > >
> > >I don't understand what this means: is it supposed concerning
> > >/etc/brltty.conf ?
> > >if so can you give me an example please ?
> > >Since English isn't my mother language I'm sure I'll much better understand 
> > >with an example than by theory, appology. 
> > 
> > You don't need to apologize for not understanding English very well. I suspect 
> > that I understand your native language even less. :-)
> 
> That's why I try to ask then do step by step, maybe that will help.
>  
> > Let's say that your Satellite has the serial number 1234, and that your 
> >BC640 
> > has the serial number 5678. You can safely start two brltty's if you do it 
> >like 
> > this:
> > 
> >    brltty -bal -dusb:1234
> >    brltty -bal -dusb:5678
> 
> Yes this is clear to me now.
> 
> I'm in fact only working(/testing) the Optelec, so in fact I'm looking
> for the usb+bt config for it but for now I did compiled a static 4.1 bin, so
> maybe I have to recompile again if I'm looking for usb+bt support for the
> Optelec ? 
> 
> > >> Yes. SmartpadF1+Thumb1 goes to the top-left, and SmartpadF1+Thumb5 goes 
> > >>to the 
> > >> bottom-left.
> > >
> > >Is smartpad f1 the key in center of the navigation pad ? 
> > 
> > The center key is called Enter. The four keys around the Enter key are called 
> > Left, Up, Right, and Down. The four long keys, from left to right, are called 
> > F1, F2, F3, and F4. 
> >F1, therefore, is the outer left key, F2 is the inner left 
> > key, F3 is the inner right key, and F4 is the outer right key.
> 
> Ah OK. I see; it's like this:
> 		  ;
> 	f1  f2  enter  f3  f4
>  		  ;
> 
> > Assuming that the BC640 is working with brltty, pressing F1 by itself will 
> > toggle you to/from the help page for the BC640.
> OK, will have a look around.
> 
> Thanx Dave.
> 
> Aldo. 
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