[BRLTTY] Braille Lite and netbook

Cathy McCombs cathysuemcc at aol.com
Fri Jul 4 16:10:39 EDT 2014


Looking on the Internet, I learned that Ubuntu 14.04, which is what my netbook is running, comes packaged with brltty. Who knew. So in Startup Applications, I set it to start brltty a few seconds after start up. With the BLT connected to the netbook, I still get it saying "Waiting on serial device," ad nauseum. I've grown to hate that line. Clearly, I don't know what I'm doing. Either some settings are wrong or I'm not doing things in the right order. Anybody run into this?

CathyM

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> My netbook is dual boot -- Windows XP and Ubuntu. I'm using the Ubuntu. I've downloaded brltty RedHat. 
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> CathyM
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>>  2. Re:  Braille Lite with netbook (Cathy McCombs)
>>  3. Re:  Braille Lite with netbook (acollins at icsmail.net)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:59:04 -0500
>> From: Siju Samuel <sijusamueltech at gmail.com>
>> To: "Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY."
>>   <brltty at mielke.cc>
>> Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] brltty 5.0 and 5.1 windows builds
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>> I tried to download brltty-win-5.1-1.zip run the brltty.exe against freedom
>> scientific Focus 14 which has usb.  I have been using this device with
>> brltty.4.5 and the libUSB-Win32 driver is installed already.  Now I did not
>> run btltty.inf.    I am attaching the log file
>> 
>> .\bin\brltty -b fs -xno -p none -A auth=none  -l debug  -n -e
>> --no-release-device > debug.log 2>&1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Samuel Thibault <
>> samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Samuel Thibault, le Mon 30 Jun 2014 00:49:14 +0200, a ?crit :
>>>> I have uploaded windows builds of brltty 5.0 and 5.1 on:
>>>> 
>>>> http://brl.thefreecat.org/brltty/
>>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately it seems the libusb-1.0 variants do not work,
>>> 
>>> Dave found the right fix, I have now uploaded the libusb-1.0 variants.
>>> 
>>> Samuel
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>> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:35:36 -0700
>> From: Cathy McCombs <cathysuemcc at aol.com>
>> To: brltty at mielke.cc
>> Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Braille Lite with netbook
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>> Well, I got that serial to USB adapter. Check. Installed brltty (I think) for Linux on netbook. But I can't be sure since I have minimal experience with Terminal. I just don't know where to go from there. Perfect Paul keeps saying "Waiting on serial device," and the only way to shut him up is to turn off the BLT. I know I've gotten into something that is a little beyond me, but I've come this far and I usually don't give up too easily. So, if anyone is willing to take me step by step I'd be very thankful. What's simple to y'all is new to me. 
>> 
>> CathyM
>> 
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 20:06:28 -0500
>> From: acollins at icsmail.net
>> To: "Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY."
>>   <brltty at mielke.cc>
>> Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Braille Lite with netbook
>> Message-ID: <E1X2VTo-0004yC-L9 at giant.collinsnet.net>
>> 
>> Hi.  Are you really running Linux on your netbook, or are you running
>> Windows?  If you are running Windows, then you need to download brltty
>> for Windows.
>> 
>> Before we can answer the rest of the questions, we need to make sure
>> wich os you are running, and that you have downloaded the correct
>> version of brltty.
>> 
>> Gene
>> 
>> 
>>> Well, I got that serial to USB adapter. Check. Installed brltty (I think) for
>> Linux on netbook. But I can't be sure since I have minimal experience with Term
>> inal. I just don't know where to go from there. Perfect Paul keeps saying "Wait
>> ing on serial device," and the only way to shut him up is to turn off the BLT. 
>> I know I've gotten into something that is a little beyond me, but I've come thi
>> s far and I usually don't give up too easily. So, if anyone is willing to take 
>> me step by step I'd be very thankful. What's simple to y'all is new to me. 
>>> 
>>> CathyM
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 11:42:26 -0500
> From: acollins at icsmail.net
> To: "Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY."
>    <brltty at mielke.cc>
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> Then try starting brltty like  this:
> 
> brltty -b bl -d usb:<num>
> 
> Where <num> is the number of the usb serial port that was created when
> you plugged in the usb serial addapter.
> 
> Also, you should edit /etc/brltty.conf and give it the proper display
> and port options, as well as the text-table, atributes, and contraction
> table you want to use.
> 
> Gene
> 
> Gene
> 
> 
>> My netbook is dual boot -- Windows XP and Ubuntu. I'm using the Ubuntu. I've d
> ownloaded brltty RedHat. 
>> 
>> CathyM
>> 
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>>>  1. Re:  brltty 5.0 and 5.1 windows builds (Siju Samuel)
>>>  2. Re:  Braille Lite with netbook (Cathy McCombs)
>>>  3. Re:  Braille Lite with netbook (acollins at icsmail.net)
>>> 
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:59:04 -0500
>>> From: Siju Samuel <sijusamueltech at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY."
>>>   <brltty at mielke.cc>
>>> Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] brltty 5.0 and 5.1 windows builds
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>>>   <CACtqk+1kYiVQWrM1WbB+ouGyNAbiJ25TTusHRyOMwDXf5AZRiw at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> I tried to download brltty-win-5.1-1.zip run the brltty.exe against freedom
>>> scientific Focus 14 which has usb.  I have been using this device with
>>> brltty.4.5 and the libUSB-Win32 driver is installed already.  Now I did not
>>> run btltty.inf.    I am attaching the log file
>>> 
>>> .\bin\brltty -b fs -xno -p none -A auth=none  -l debug  -n -e
>>> --no-release-device > debug.log 2>&1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Samuel Thibault <
>>> samuel.thibault at ens-lyon.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> Samuel Thibault, le Mon 30 Jun 2014 00:49:14 +0200, a ?crit :
>>>>> I have uploaded windows builds of brltty 5.0 and 5.1 on:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://brl.thefreecat.org/brltty/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately it seems the libusb-1.0 variants do not work,
>>>> 
>>>> Dave found the right fix, I have now uploaded the libusb-1.0 variants.
>>>> 
>>>> Samuel
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:35:36 -0700
>>> From: Cathy McCombs <cathysuemcc at aol.com>
>>> To: brltty at mielke.cc
>>> Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Braille Lite with netbook
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>>> Well, I got that serial to USB adapter. Check. Installed brltty (I think) fo
> r Linux on netbook. But I can't be sure since I have minimal experience with Te
> rminal. I just don't know where to go from there. Perfect Paul keeps saying "Wa
> iting on serial device," and the only way to shut him up is to turn off the BLT
> . I know I've gotten into something that is a little beyond me, but I've come t
> his far and I usually don't give up too easily. So, if anyone is willing to tak
> e me step by step I'd be very thankful. What's simple to y'all is new to me. 
>>> 
>>> CathyM
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 20:06:28 -0500
>>> From: acollins at icsmail.net
>>> To: "Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY."
>>>   <brltty at mielke.cc>
>>> Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Braille Lite with netbook
>>> Message-ID: <E1X2VTo-0004yC-L9 at giant.collinsnet.net>
>>> 
>>> Hi.  Are you really running Linux on your netbook, or are you running
>>> Windows?  If you are running Windows, then you need to download brltty
>>> for Windows.
>>> 
>>> Before we can answer the rest of the questions, we need to make sure
>>> wich os you are running, and that you have downloaded the correct
>>> version of brltty.
>>> 
>>> Gene
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Well, I got that serial to USB adapter. Check. Installed brltty (I think) f
> or
>>> Linux on netbook. But I can't be sure since I have minimal experience with T
> erm
>>> inal. I just don't know where to go from there. Perfect Paul keeps saying "W
> ait
>>> ing on serial device," and the only way to shut him up is to turn off the BL
> T. 
>>> I know I've gotten into something that is a little beyond me, but I've come
> thi
>>> s far and I usually don't give up too easily. So, if anyone is willing to ta
> ke 
>>> me step by step I'd be very thankful. What's simple to y'all is new to me. 
>>>> 
>>>> CathyM
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 13:35:19 -0400
> From: Chris Moore <chris.w1gm at gmail.com>
> To: "Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY."
>    <brltty at mielke.cc>
> Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] applying shared memory patch to screen-4.2.1
>    under    macports
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> Hello Raoul,
> I found your brltty-screen patch and applied it to the macports distribution.  This resulted in two rejected hunks which I can send along if you?d like.  
> 
> I then attempted to build patched screen package with:
> sudo port build screen
> 
> This resulted in a compiler error which I?m attempting to figure out.  I?m attaching the main.log which shows the errors and warnings from the build.
> 
> Chris
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> From: Dave Mielke <dave at mielke.cc>
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> [quoted lines by acollins at icsmail.net on 2014/07/03 at 11:42 -0500]
> 
>> Then try starting brltty like  this:
>> 
>> brltty -b bl -d usb:<num>
> 
> That won't work for a BrailleLite since it only supports serial I/O. The 
> braille device will need to be:
> 
>   serial:ttyUSB0
> 
> Note that the "tty" is lowercase but that the "USB" is uppercase. The 0 (zero) 
> is probably right, assuming that there's only one USB to serial adapter in use. 
> Check /dev to be sure.
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 17:44:25 -0500
> From: acollins at icsmail.net
> To: "Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY."
>    <brltty at mielke.cc>
> Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] BRLTTY Digest, Vol 10, Issue 148
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> 
> Oops!  Sorry about that, I made the mistake of looking at the config
> file, instead of plugging my own usb serial addapter.
> 
> Gene
> 
> 
>> [quoted lines by acollins at icsmail.net on 2014/07/03 at 11:42 -0500]
>> 
>>> Then try starting brltty like  this:
>>> 
>>> brltty -b bl -d usb:<num>
>> 
>> That won't work for a BrailleLite since it only supports serial I/O. The 
>> braille device will need to be:
>> 
>>  serial:ttyUSB0
>> 
>> Note that the "tty" is lowercase but that the "USB" is uppercase. The 0 (zero)
> 
>> is probably right, assuming that there's only one USB to serial adapter in use
> . 
>> Check /dev to be sure.
>> 
>> -- 
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>> Phone: 1-613-726-0014 | Ottawa, Ontario   | http://Mielke.cc/bible/
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 14:20:19 +0200
> From: Raoul <rmgls at free.fr>
> To: "Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY."
>    <brltty at mielke.cc>
> Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] applying shared memory patch to screen-4.2.1
>    under    macports
> Message-ID: <484C8407-50D1-4C79-AEFC-041C4E269A02 at free.fr>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
> 
> Hello Chris, 
> as i said, the patch was applied to screen-4.0.3 port taken on freebsd ports.
> to  apply it to macports i must refactor it.
> 
> as soon as it will be done i?ll post it to the list.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Raoul
> 
> On 03 Jul 2014, at 19:35, Chris Moore <chris.w1gm at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Raoul,
>> I found your brltty-screen patch and applied it to the macports distribution.  This resulted in two rejected hunks which I can send along if you?d like.  
>> 
>> I then attempted to build patched screen package with:
>> sudo port build screen
>> 
>> This resulted in a compiler error which I?m attempting to figure out.  I?m attaching the main.log which shows the errors and warnings from the build.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
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