[BRLTTY] Starting Orca on Fedora.

Pawel Loba ploba60 at gmail.com
Sun Jun 3 05:16:12 EDT 2018


Hi:
Could you please just use Fedora Workstation Live  installation USB or CD
and start the installation process sort of from scratch to see if this
combination of keys really works for Braille display support. 
I believe if you'd get anything there will be ORCA talking with no Braille
support.
I wish I am wrong about this but You built your graphical environment
experience base on the existing system that's probably why you got Braille
working afterwards.
With warm regards,
Pawel
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From: BRLTTY [mailto:brltty-bounces at brltty.app] On Behalf Of Dave Mielke
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2018 10:15 PM
To: brltty at brltty.app
Subject: [BRLTTY] Starting Orca on Fedora.

After having followed lots of wrong paths, I finally stumbled on the right
one.
All that seems to need to be done is, when on the gdm (Gnome Display
Manager) login screen, to press the three-key combination Suepr+Alt+s. For
those who may not know, Super seems to be the new name for the Windows key.
What's cool is that even braille began to work.

Both the left and right Super (Windows) keys work for this, as do both the
left and right Alt keys - in other words, all of the four possible
combinations, along with the letter s, work. The combination is actually a
persistent toggle
- pressing it again turns Orca off, and again turns it on, etc. The current
setting survives a reboot.

Now for something that I hope can be fixed. I normally don't have a monitor
connected. What I've discovered is that, when gdm is enabled, login (getty)
prompts on other ttys are blocked until gdm is up, and gdm waits for a
monitor to be connecgted. In other words, with gdm enabled and with no
minitor connected (my usual case), I can't log in anymore even on another
tty. My personal opinion is that getty instances shouldn't depend on the
idiosyncracies of the urrent system default target and whatever its
dependencies happen to be.

Those who'd like to use a graphical environment should, of course, install
Fedora Workstation. If, however, you're like me, i.e. you installed Fedora
Server, this is what I did first:

   dnf groupinstall "GNOME Desktop Environment"
   dnf groupinstall "Fedora Workstation"
   systemctl disable getty at tty1 # to free up tty1 for gdm
   systemctl enable gdm # to select Gnome to be the display manager
   systemctl set-default graphical.target # to have the display manager
started

And now for my current, serious problem: If I boot my computer with that
"stolen" monitor connected, it crashes just ater gdm starts. I'm suspecting
this to mean that something within the X world is badly configured with
respect to this monitor, and that that may have been caused by the fact that
I'd first started gdm without having it connected. I'm searching for a
solution, but am also hoping that someone who knows a lot more about X than
I do can give me some hints. For now, I either have to switch back to no
graphical environment or discnnect the monitor, boot the system, wait for a
while, and finally reconnect the monitor again. Neither of these
alternatives is very nice. :-(

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