[BRLTTY] Queries on Navigation in Android

Dave Mielke dave at mielke.cc
Wed Aug 26 11:42:28 EDT 2015


[quoted lines by Rob on 2015/08/25 at 19:35 -0500]

>I use the phone with both braille and Talkback, and the button was
>not "dimmed." 

That's odd. This is something I clearly need to have a much closer look into. 
Does Message Plus need the device to have a SIM card, or does it send messages 
via the internet? I may have access to a tablet that's running Lollipop, but it 
doesn't support a SIM card.

>Could something be added to Brltty to indicate if a control is dimmed or not? 
>Perhaps an asterisk (dots 1-6) before the name of the control?

Yes, that could be done.

>Well, that didn't work either. Still the only way to activate the
>button is to swipe the screen directly to it.

What happens if you swipe to it, but then use brltty to click on it?

>I found a workaround for that. I extended the lock timer to a whole
>minute. This gives Brltty time to find the braille device again,
>before the phone can relock itself.

That makes sense.

>I was told by someone from Hims that a Braille Sense will not work
>with Android over USB. I am thinking that if a braille display was
>connected via USB, Brltty would find the device faster.

Of course it should work - with brltty, anyway. Maybe BrailleBack doesn't 
support USB yet.

>Is there a way to capture a realtime log session while the phone is
>in use? That way, you could see exactly what is happening when I move
>the display around.

Android always keeps a realtime log. You just need to extract it. There are 
notes in brltty's documentation for Android on how to do this, but you'd need 
the SDK. We could, of course, add a way to tell brltty to directly send us a 
copy of the log, but, so far, that hasn't been done. Such a feature could be 
perceived as a security problem, but if the user has to explicitly request it, 
and if the documentation for how to do it clearly outlines the security risk, 
then it should be okay.

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