[BRLTTY] 6.5 within a couple of weeks.

[Christian Schoepplein]

Hi Dave,

On Mon, May 02, 2022 at 11:36:36AM -0400, Dave Mielke wrote:
>[quoted lines by Christian Schoepplein on 2022/05/02 at 10:30 +0200]
>>For example the following lines are not spoken fully in some situations:
>>
>>ssh
>>ssd
>>ssl
>>
>>In some situations only h, d and l are spoken.
>
>Yes. The case is when the same physical line on the screen is used. Since 
>brltty doesn't know what you've actually done - it just passively raeds 
>the screen - it sees that as an updated line rather than a switch to a 
>different line.

Yes, understood. But wouldn't it be best practice to allways speech the full 
line, no matter if they are really new or only updated? Speaking only a part 
of a line is IMHO a real bad behaviour when only working with speech because 
the user will not get the whole information of the content displayed on the 
screen.

>Within an editor, this will typically happen either when you're at the 
>bottom of the screen and move down or at the top of the screen and move 
>up. In these cases, you've technically moved to a new line but what 
>actually happens on the screen is that you stay on the same physical line 
>while the screen has been scrolled. You can probably work around this one 
>by telling the editor to scroll by at least two lines at a time.

Yes, thats one solution, but its a workaround for a problem wich is located 
somewhere else. And it might work for the editor, but in other programs it 
won't. I've seen this behaviour also in mutt, there I do not know any 
solution to tell the programm to skip two lines.

>>I can reproduce it in bash, but I don't know if this is a wanted behaviour 
>>or a bug:
>
>My opinion is that it's a bit of both. :-)

Yes, I also do think so. I just wanted to bring this issue up again because 
its a big problem when working with speech only. It would be great to have a 
solution for this issue, but if it is difficult to implement there might be 
also other issues which are more important.

Ciao,

  Schoepp